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SF Bay Area's avatar

They’ll have to step over our corpses first. This nation won’t turn into a communist cesspit—not while we’re breathing, and not unless they claw our guns from our lifeless, unyielding grip.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Interesting how MAGA gun nut losers never take up arms against the Nazis taking over the government...

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SF Bay Area's avatar

That’s because we voted the Biden crime family out of office no need to.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

The crime wasn't the whole family. Trump is the 35x FELON Sexual Deviant Insurrectionist, Fake Elector Leader of 18 FAKE ELECTORS 😂..Hiding the top-secret FILES all over Maralago & flood the pool tech room is a freaking Hollywood movie 🎥..Trump is a complete SHAM CULT INCOMPETENT LURCH PARTY AGENDAS BITCOIN WORTH zero but makes Billions on it. CROOK 🪝 FELON. LET'S THE CROKKS OUT OF PRISON & FREAKS OUT OVER WORKING IMMIGRANTS & REMOVING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM GOVERNMENT WEBSITES

ITS SICKENING MAN.

ARE YOU AMERICAN OR NAZI!? YOU AN AUTOCRATIC OLIGARCHY HYPOCRISY FULL TILT BS CRACKER HEADS!!!!

EXGOP HERE ✔️✅✔️✅✔️✔️✅✔️✅✔️✅✔️

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Seek mental health assistance immediately before you hurt yourself or someone much more important than you.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

You're a complete moron 😂

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Al K's avatar

SF Bay Area is objectively far more intelligent and sane than you.

I'm sure you know that President Trump's convictions were both political. No other place on earth but NYC would a jury have found him guilty. You have had a bunch of crazy ideas pumped into your head and you barf them out into psychotic posts. An insurrection? Without guns? You're freaked out about President Trump saving documents like a letter from Kim Jong Un deep in his compound but are perfectly fine with Biden storing boxes of gov't documents in his garage? I'm certain you ignored the fact that Hillary Clinton stored gov't emails and files on an unsecured server in her home, and the FBI has said it was extremely likely that her server had been hacked by the Chinese.

Who is the autocrat: the guy who decreased the power/cost/size of government and cut regulations or the guy who forced companies to require their employees get an experimental vaccine, tried to ban gas stoves, extended the eviction moratorium that prevented apartment owners from collecting rents, and pushed for the prosecution of parents who spoke up at school meetings?

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Put calling kettle black much.

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Stephen Rourke's avatar

The crime family is the one that’s currently in office. You admire them because they’re committing crimes that you think are being committed on your behalf. You don’t care about the rule of law. You care about the rule of you. This is why people like you worship guns. but, in the end, it is people like you that end up destroying societies. If history teaches us anything, it is that societies are not destroyed from without without until they’re destroyed from within. And, all too often, that destruction comes when one segment of society decides that it is, in the words of George Orwell, more equal than everyone else.

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David Dedmon's avatar

The people screaming about the Nazis are actually the REAL Nazis.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

Progressive left hypocrisy is insane. Decrying ‘fascists’ while pushing cancel culture and thought police tactics. Zero self-awareness.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

"Cancel culture" yet who are the people who are imprisoning protestors without trial? Who are the people doing Nazi salutes on national television while using the same rhetoric against immigrants that Nazis used in the 30s and 40s?

Like you say- zero self awareness

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Nancy B's avatar

Fast forward to Democrats using the same motions but then is ok. Sr Cory Booker & Nancy Pelosi in the last few days?

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Paulah May's avatar

I do love all the boohoos from the crybabies who WON and got their guy back in office, btw.. and are still angry and threatened to the point they can’t say two sentences in sequence without blaming the “dems” or the “ leftists” or” libs” for every damn thing… when truly, and you know it, your panties are in a knot because you’re not as smart as you wish you were, as rich as you thought you would be, nor are you able to control a teensy little bit of the world you’re stuck in.

You’re miserable because YOU CHOOSE IT. It’s not anyone else’s ideology that makes you a knee pad wearing eunuch for a name calling blathering xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, criminal sycophant .. it’s perpetual anger and fear and some bully in elementary school or embarassing sexual rejection in your past that you want to try to compensate for that makes you this way.

Plus you have absolutely no identity of your own and can’t remember who you are anyway.

All day yesterday “ oh those violent libtard protesters” blah blah blah forgetting that it wasn’t so long ago that YOUR SIDE showed up in Charlottesville with torches chanting “ Jews will not replace us” and driving muscle cars into the crowd to KILL your fellow Americans.

Please try to understand through your fog of self loathing and entitlement … that peaceful and productive members of our communities are being herded into foreign detention centers with no due process and even if you don’t care about those people, it’s an unamerican unconstitutional action on its very face. And if that doesn’t matter or you either, that’s fine. But pay attention : it’s an economically irresponsible act any clever fifth grader could have figured out on their own … you undermine the labor pool and doors of businesses we rely on CLOSE. AND … we. Don’t. Eat.

You’ve backed a moron with no actual strategy except to hate other people and see how much power he can wield in stubby little hands.

And now he’s going to bury us all if we don’t shut his overstepping authoritarian ass DOWN.

READ a textbook some day. You would know he’s just following the step by instruction manual for “ how to through a coup”

P. S. People who are heard by the representative government in a state of decorum have no desire nor need to take to the streets and scream and throw rocks en masse.

Donald Trump is the immediate problem. And his rabid misguided trumpanzees who think he will EVER do anything for our country

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Al K's avatar

There have been studies done that found conservatives are far happier than liberals. We are joyful that the country is finally back on track, that the border has been secured, that government waste is finally being cut.

Ironic, that in the sentence that accuses President Trump of name calling, you call his supporters a long list of names. Also ironic that you say conservatives are not smart and then go on to claim that Charlottesville was about Jewish people. Charlottesville was a rally to protest the removal of Confederate generals' statues.

You've forgotten that 23 cities burned in 180 of the 2200 George Floyd protests that became riots. 68 cities and counties reported that they experienced 2,385 incidents of looting and 624 incidents of arson, including 97 police vehicles burned. There were 60,000 instances of police officers being assaulted and 2,035 law enforcement officers were injured at the Floyd riots.

Democrats are the party of antisemitism (AOC, Tlaib, and Omar being the most obvious). Yes, we blame the left for the problems with the country. It wasn't conservatives that let 12+ million unvetted migrants into the country (including 200 military-age males from Iran, traveling alone). It wasn't conservatives that pushed for $7 trillion in Covid relief spending ($5 trillion that was unnecessary and its only effect was inflation). It wasn't Republican Attorney Generals that have stopped prosecuting crime or changed the laws so theft of less than $1000 was a misdemeanor and only a ticket is issued.

Conservatives don't take to the streets to scream, throw rocks, set police cars on fire, and loot stores. Leftists have and do frequently.

President Trump has achieved dozens of successes in correcting the problems left by the Biden administration (and the Obama administration), the most recent being finally ending Iran's ability to enrich fissionable material to make nuclear weapons.

If you are not aware of President Trump's achievements during his first and now his second term, it's because you've chosen the wrong sources for your news.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

"There have been studies done that found conservatives are far happier than liberals."

Because they're too dull to know how depressing the world is outside their house.

But you're not a good example because clearly you're a miserable Fox News watcher.

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Paulah May's avatar

Conservatives don’t protest… but their nasty little boogaloo boi white nationalist cousins do. And yes I know what Charlottesville was about, and I’m awfully sorry if you’re directly descended from a Confederate “hero”, but I don’t see you up in arms about Trump removing all references to people of color and women from the national museum - you only care about preserving the history of the white slave owners perhaps. In any case. Now that you’re clear that I know that the Charlottesville protest was about removing Confederate statues from public spaces: now it’s your turn: you tell me then, what was the torch bearing gathering of black and yellow polo shirt wearing, Caucasian young males, “evening rally” about then? Because those “ nice people on both sides” were chanting “Jews will not replace us “. And those ARE Trumps soldiers and it is Russ Voughts battle strategy.

You can pretend to be very intellectually superior if you like , but you are promoting a propagandist view of EVERYTHING you have spoken about in this thread.

But I haven’t heard one compelling comment from you about the constitution, the American people, or Jesus Christ. So if you are the soft sell from the Vought organization, you’ve failed.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Independent contractor here.. ExReaganRepublican when GOP was Conservative, 🚫 NOT craZy AF!!! TRUMP was a DEMOCRAT all his life until Hilary . 😂 His buddy. Party buddies the Clintons !!! Epstein was his good buddy too. Wake the fuck up. 34x FELON CREEPER Sexual DEVIANT Assualter!!! He owes her 88 million dollars 💵💵💵🤑🤑🤑🤑 STILL. He will lose.

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Saki Koskinen's avatar

It would appear so. People are so vulnerable to propaganda that it's embarrassing.

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SF Bay Area's avatar

You win he’s Hitler reincarnated.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Great, don't play victim then

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

You're full of NAZI Narcissim. What a legacy for you.

You'll all be crying 😭 when MAGA loses the House, Senate and the NEXT Election Mofos. My husband is ANOTHER EXMAGA who's never going back to ANYONE in the GOP. The Republican Party was my party until Trump said he can grab women's pussies and not even wait bc he's a CELEBRITY. Caught on hot mic. The guy raped EJean Carroll, Signed a FAKE ELECTORS Fraudulent Document 📄 to stop the reading of the Election by Pence. Hang Pence huh?? Beat officers and threaten to kill them?? 😠❌ It's all NAZI Bullshit Agendas SWAMP Party Wannabe King Dictator BSer from Elitist, wannabe Populist 😂...Nationalist,

HATEFUL MEAN PHUCKS= Narcissist Gaslighting Conspiracy Theorist Moron Conman FELON CREEP LYING Thug PUTIN Lover Monster Party from Hell Mandates Project NIGHTMARES 🕳️🕳️🕳️ *TRUNP SAYS , I DON'T KNOW THOSE PEOPLE PROJECT 2025 LIAR CONMAN FELON TRAITOR TRAIN STATION CHEWWWW CHEWWW...

Eat shit 💩 MAGA you're going to LOSE MIDTERMS obviously 😂😂😂😂😂😂. FEARFUL IDIOCRACY MAGA NUTS CULT

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Al K's avatar

Who are these Nazis you referring to? Which one is the authoritarian: the guy who decreased the size/power/budgets of gov’t agencies & cut regulations, or the guy who forced employers to have their employees vaccinated & tried to ban gas stoves?

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Vaccinating people for the benefit of public health and 'banning' gas stoves for the critical environmental benefit is fascism? Grow up

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Al K's avatar

Fascism is an autocratic system where the government controls citizens and companies. It differs from communism only in that with fascism, the companies are privately owned, whereas in communism, companies are publicly owned. Cutting government spending and power is the opposite of fascism.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

That's not the working definition of either of those things. The first thing that fascists do once power is consolidated is they deconstruct democratic governmental oversight and replace the levers of power with their own. The purpose of that is to help private capital crush the proletarian labor force. What do you think happens when liberal capitalism strips institutional power? Do you think the corporations end up paying their workers more, making things cheaper, being more fair in their business, exploit the environment less, make work safer and exerting less power over workers when govt protections and regulations are dismantled? Fuck no, obviously. Fascism is the next necessary step for the elites once capitalism fails. The only solution to this contradiction is the people overthrowing them through class war.

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Al K's avatar

Corporations pay workers what they are worth. If they pay them less, they lose workers to their competition, IN A CAPITALIST SYSTEM. The system ensures the best pay that companies can afford, unless the gov’t gets involved & screws everything up. In a socialist (fascist, communist, generic socialist) system, corporate competition is non-existant, so the gov’t tells the corporations what to pay their employees. If the employees get paid too much, the company fails (under capitalism) or gets bailed out by the gov’t (under socialism). Those bailouts are simply taking cash from taxpayers or productive companies & propping up underperforming companies. Have you been to the soviet union? All the products were crap. There was never any meat in the stores. This is what you get under socialism: everyone is equally miserable. If you’d ever spent a month in a socialist country, you would be the loudest critic of socialism.

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Al K's avatar

The vaccines did not prevent illness nor transmission. They were authoritarianism, straight up, not public health. They were also untested, their known side-effects were hidden by the pharmaceutical companies (remember how Pfizer wanted the clinical study data to be sealed for 75 years? Why?), and now we know that the Covid vaccines caused harm to more people than they saved. No healthy person under 55 needed the vaccines and should not have been forced to get them.

There is no benefit to banning gas stoves. A gas stove produces about 1.5 kilograms of CO2 to cook a meal. Most of the electricity in the US is produced from coal, so that cooking a meal on an electric stove produces between 1 and 2 kilograms of CO2. Once we build 1000 more nuclear power plants and can support all the electricity usage necessary, I'll gladly buy an electric car and replace my gas stove and furnace with electric ones.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

The majority of electricity in the US grid is natural gas, not coal, please do one iota of googling before looking like a clown.

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Al K's avatar
Jun 24Edited

Nope… natural gas is 42% of US electricity production. I was going by memory & I know coal used to be 51%… as recently as 2008. Gas is cleaner (only 50% of coal plant CO2 production), but because of leaks & the fact that methane has 28 to 36 times the greenhouse potential of CO2, the greenhouse effect of natural gas power production is roughly par with coal… some say worse. Also, wind & solar are not as clean as everyone thinks). Turbines require mining & refining tons of aluminum and solar requires mining minerals also. Plus both turbines & solar have less than 20-25 year lifespans, so all that pollution gets to be done again. Back to nuclear… as I said originally.

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Paulah May's avatar

You know ..

Presidente EL CRAPPY TAN. He is dismantling the federal gvmt and removing power from the judiciary and electeds EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE PLAN. But first. Before he spends another slew of our tax money on a UFC White House kickboxing facility or to bail out one of the multiple third world shitholes he plans to extract resources from and build sub par detention facilities in for misdemeanor criminal immigrants ( or the dark skinned who accidentally get caught up in the COUNTRY WIDE PSYCHO human being net only intended for people WHO APPEAR TO BE OF FOREIGN DESCENT…

Naw. That’s not RACIST NAZI BULLSHIT. If you’re a Nazi Racist.

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Al K's avatar

Oh... someone needs a nap, or are you cranky because your diaper needs changing?

I'm of foreign descent. My father's and mother's families applied for entry into the US, waited months, each found a sponsor in the US willing to put them up and ensure they would not be burdens on the US, waited more months, finally got sponsors and THEN traveled to the US. My father's dad was a judge in his home country, but the judicial system is different here, so he worked as a janitor while he went to night school and got a degree in accounting, then got a job as a cost accountant at G&W Electric, where he worked until retirement. My father's mother got a job cleaning rooms at a hotel in downtown Chicago, then later got a job as a seamstress making suits at Hart Shaffner Marx, where she worked until retirement. My mother's dad was a forest ranger in his home country and worked as a janitor for People's Gas until retirement. My mother's mom was also a seamstress at a suit maker in downtown Chicago.

Just so you know, Obama put a basketball court in the White house.

You're the one freaking out about race, not me. I don't care what race someone is... I'm biracial. Do you know which group of people are most supportive of President Trump's rounding up and deporting of illegals? Legal immigrants, especially Hispanic legal immigrants. Blacks are a close second, because a large percentage of poor Blacks compete for low-wage jobs with illegals, who are much cheaper labor, b/c they don't get any benefits and the employers don't have to pay into Social Security or unemployment insurance for illegals. The group most against deportations are rich single women, who have miles of buffer between them and where the migrants live.

Oh, so much better if China extracts resources from those third world countries rather than the US...

You are wrong about virtually everything you say. I have proven it. Read your lunatic tirade again. Aren't you ashamed?

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Paulah May's avatar

Well I did need a nap but you don’t have to be a dick about it! 😂

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Paulah May's avatar

The guy who is commandeering the national guard and the largest policing force in history - ICE - into an army to be used in American cities against the will of the governors of the states is the authoritarian. The guy who is trying to destroy all of the checks and balances in our system to give himself and himself only the power to decide and rule is the fascist, the guy who is having people who are not guilty of any crime but merely a civil violation incarcerated in shitholes in foreign lands without due process is the facist dictator .

The guy who let his wealthy buddy access and manipulate our data and our governmental agencies, to fire competent personnel, and create for himself billions in new government contracts is the tyrant.

The guy who pardoned insurrectionists who brutalized and killed law enforcement on Jan 6th is the dictator.

These checks of the executive branch are explicitly addressed in the constitution and our presidents actions are described as an act of tyranny by our founding father, Madison himself.

Any time you ask the people to exchange their freedoms for an illusion of safety, they will get neither.

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Al K's avatar

Misinformed Canadians shouldn't show their ignorance of US law. You've got enough problems with your own tyrants who freeze bank accounts of protesters. Nice.

1. Washington DC is a federal district, not a state, and thus under the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the federal government. The executive branch "executes" laws made by the legislature. It also enforces the laws. President Trump, as the head of the executive branch, is the highest-ranking law-enforcement officer in the US. It is exactly his job to make sure that Washington DC citizens are protected from criminals.

It is his also the president's job to ensure that all citizens of all the states are protected from enemies within the country and foreign forces. Federal troops have been dispatched to states numerous times to quell unrest.

In 1943, Democrat President FDR invoked the Insurrection Act and ordered 6,000 troops to control the Detroit Race Riots.

In 1957, Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and sent 1,000 US Army paratroopers into Little Rock to guard Black students at Little Rock Central High School from segregationists. Democrat Governor, Orval Faubus had used the Arkansas National Guard to block nine Black students from entering the school. The troops stayed for several months.

In 1962, Democrat President John F Kennedy invoked the Insurrection Act and sent 30,000 federal forces to the University of Mississippi to stop the a violent mob that was preventing James Meredith from being the first Black student to enroll. Democrat Governor Ross Barnett was on the side of the segregationists and defied the president when JFK tried to get him to use the Mississippi National Guard to control the riots and protect Meredith. The federal troops stayed for several months to keep the peace.

1963: Alabama Desegregation Showdowns (JFK vs Democrat Governor George Wallace... twice)

1965: Selma to Montgomery March Protection (Democrat President Lyndon B Johnson vs Democrat Governor George Wallace)... 1800 Alabama National Guard under federal control and 2,000 Army soldiers.

1967: Detroit riots,

1968: Washington DC, Baltimore, and Chicago riots... all Democrat-run cities at the time,

1971: Washington DC - May Day Riots (20,000 federal forces),

1987: Atlanta Prison Riot,

1992: LA Riots,

2020: Washington DC - George Floyd Riots - President Trump invoked Title 32 U.S. Code section 502(f), which allows state troops to be deployed under the control of the President,

https://brendonbeebe.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web

The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) section 236(c) specifies mandatory detention for certain non-citizen offenders, requiring ICE to take custody "when the alien is released."

If a state, county, or local police office intentionally releases a captured person that ICE has requested to be detained, that office is aiding an illegal alien from being apprehended by ICE. This is a federal crime.

Illegal immigrants, have broken a federal immigration law by entering the US. President Trump isn't directly targeting illegal immigrants that have been otherwise law-abiding, but if his ICE agents run across any illegals, then apprehend them, but they are primarily searching for ones that have committed additional crimes. Your CBC probably keeps this kind of information from you. You trust government-run news media? You would have loved living in the USSR and reading the official newspaper of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Pravda (which, ironically, means "The Truth" in Russian).

You need to look up what "fascist" means. It's not just "when President Trump (or George Bush or Ronald Reagan) does something I don't like." You are being childish... a spoiled child, ranting about something that is right, but you don't like.

2. Obama actually created the department that President Trump renamed "DOGE." Obama gave the department the authority to investigate the computer systems of any federal department. President Trump simply commissioned DOGE to report any budgetary anomalies to Congress and the federal Office of Personnel Management. DOGE has no power other than to audit computers and they don't fire gov't employees, they just report to people who can. Lower courts have ruled this within the power of the President. https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/03/05/trump-doge-obama/

3. President Trump pardoned only the January 6th attendees who were non-violent. Nobody that assaulted police or vandalized the Capitol have been pardoned. Your gov't-run news never showed you the hours of video where people politely wandered around the Capitol building, staying within the stanchion ropes. What you saw were the dozen or two idiots. After 3 years of prosecutions and tens of millions of dollars wasted, more than 1,200 people were charged in the Jan 6 "attack," and 460 were jailed, the vast majority of them non-violent. Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, was sentenced to 22 years in prison and jailed, despite not even being in Washington DC that day. No police died on Jan 6. Air Force veteran Ashlii Babbitt was shot by a Capitol police officer through a door and there were two attendees that died of medical emergencies. Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick died the next day of a stroke. He was not physically hit on Jan 6, as has been reported incorrectly by many leftist media outlets.

Founding Father and fourth POTUS, said: "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands... may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."

Which legislative and judiciary powers has President Trump accumulated? Executive Actions, like Obama's "DACA" EA, which he even admitted was unconstitutional (https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/daca-unconstitutional-obama-admitted)? Executive actions like Biden's repeated attempts to waive college debt (a feeble attempt to buy votes), despite the SCOTUS ruling he couldn't? President Trump has not exceeded executive powers any further than Obama or Biden have.

The Executive Branch is the law enforcement branch. It's commission is to execute the laws and enforce them. That involves arresting criminals. You know that the FBI has been involved in fighting crime in cities across the US since July 26, 1908. You simply don't like what President Trump is doing, because you have been programmed by leftist media to hate him. Ask the actual people in DC, Memphis, and Chicago... they welcome the President cleaning up crime in their cities... DC Mayor "greatly appreciates" the resources sent to DC by President Trump. https://www.dailywire.com/news/bowser-touts-extreme-reduction-in-crime-since-trump-took-over-d-c-law-enforcement

Finally, if you are going to quote Benjamin Franklin, you should get the quote right: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

No citizen has lost their liberty. The only people that need fear the federal forces cleaning up Democrat-run cities are criminals... oh, and the mayors and governor JB the Hutt, because President Trump will highlight how the mayors and the IL governor could have made their cities safe, but didn't. It will be a great embarrassment.

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Stephen Rourke's avatar

I think you’re actually talking about, on the one hand, the current president who is exploding the federal deficit versus the previous president who launched the life-saving vaccine program that scared his processor nearly to death.

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RChmpK's avatar

Biden launched nothing except poop into his Depends.

President Trump arranged the distribution of the vaccines, using our military, before he left office. All Biden did was execute the distribution plan the Trump administration developed.

President Trump says he would not have forced anyone to get the vaccines, which is the correct thing to do.

The national debt exploded in 2020 & 2021 because Democrats filled the unnecessary relief bills with $5 trillion more than was needed.

The national debt started to explode under Obama, who took it from $7 trillion to $14 trillion. In terms of % increase, Obama has the record & what did we get for it? Obama had the slowest recovery from a recession of any President in US history. It took 6 years for the DOW to regain its pre-2008 crash level.

This comment section has more delusional commenters than even Bluesky!

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Brother, Trump was President in 2020, that spending happened under his Presidency. Trump cut taxes for corporations causing the debt to explode exponentially. National debt is not a problem, the problem is wasting it on military hegemony rather than helping us. If you're going to be wrong, don't be so confident about it.

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Al K's avatar

You don’t seem to understand how gov’t spending happens. Congress put together these recovery bills. Dems controlled the house and authored the $7 trillion in “recovery” bills. President Trump’s hand was forced… if he vetoed a recovery bill, he certainly would have been voted out. The economy would have recovered just as well without the spending, but it would have been easy for Biden to say “all you citizens are suffering b/c Trump vetoed the bill.” You’re not that bright are you… no socialist is.

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Stephen Rourke's avatar

The only President launching poop is the current one. And it is not “correct” to tell people that it’s OK to infect people with a deadly virus, which nullified anything he may have done to help create the vaccine. Trump has blood on his hands, and will have more of it before his term is over. Meanwhile, Biden restarted the economy while reducing the deficit.

Go back to talking to yourself while surfing Internet porn. You’re the only one who’ll believe you.

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TxAlways's avatar

Boom 💥

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Peg Manning's avatar

Seriously, no one who understands communism wants it. Including the communists.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard

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Peg Manning's avatar

Don’t get out much?

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Exactly 💯.

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Stephen Rourke's avatar

It may surprise you to know that, for a great many people, that proposal is acceptable. I'm not one of them. The only real way has already been found in Western Europe, where the economies are balanced between individual need and social justice. If you cannot adapt to this view, your fate is sealed.

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Al K's avatar

Social justice is nothing more than punishing one group for the benefit of another. What is truly just is treating everyone equally. "Equality" is equal opportunity. "Equity" is equal outcomes. Not everyone has equal ability or puts in equal effort, so the only way to socially engineer equal outcomes is to punish the overachievers.

The soviet union did that and it collapsed. Before it collapsed it was the most inefficient and miserable society. People got paid the same regardless of whether they were the best employee or slept under their desk all day. Eventually everyone was sleeping under their desk. In 2022, 12.86 cars per assembly line employee were built in the US. Soviet car factories produced 1 car for every 10 assembly line employees (and less than 5% of the cars were defect-free).

61.6% of US citizens are white, but only 17% of NBA players and 24.9% of NFL players are white. Per social justice, 61.6% of NBA and NFL players should be white, right? And players don't get paid equally. Let's equalize the salaries of all the players... surely the games will be better when everyone is paid equally, right?

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

You really don't understand the two concepts, in an equal system you would expect equal results on average, but you don't get that in America which is theoretically equal. The reason for that is the obvious historical effects of segregation, slavery and on going racism. You cannot remedy this with equal opportunity since the structure itself has not changed. The term equity seeks to fix that disparity in the fairest way possible. Let me remind you- assuming youre white based on your cookie cutter Fox News NBA example- you are not oppressed based on your race. You may be oppressed on other basses like a worker who doesn't own capital for example. And I suggest not to spawn statistics about the soviet union out of thin air, you look silly.

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Al K's avatar
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*You* really don’t understand the two concepts & you clearly cannot understand what I wrote. Equal opportunity will not result in equal outcomes. You claim that white people have more opportunities than black. If that were the case, then the NBA & NFL would be mostly white. They are not because 61.6% of the most talented baskeball players are black. Whether they were physically gifted or worked harder doesn’t matter (some are just gifted, some worked harder, for some it was both) they are the best & that’s why they are in the NBA.

What is obvious to you is actually incorrect. 14% of the US is Black. 14% of CEOs are not Black not because of slavery. That’s a cop out. Affirmative Action has been in place since 1961. It has been easier for Blacks to get into college, get jobs, & be promoted at corporations, than Whites. The reason that 14% of CEOs are not black is because nowhere near 14% of applicants for CEO positions are black. Why? Because far fewer black men go to college (actually, a larger % of black women go to college than white women), fewer Blacks of either sex study business, and fewer Blacks go for MBAs. Fewer women of any race go into business & ever fewer go for MBAs. This has nothing to do with slavery. It has to do with the majors that men, women, Blacks, & Whites happen to choose. Fewer black men go to college mostly because of President Johnson’s “War on Poverty.” His welfare programs incentivised single motherhood. Now, 61 years and $14 trillion in welfare later, 80% of black kids are in single-mother households. Without a father figure, a large percentage of black boys end up in gangs & even if they don’t, when they finish high school, they have no interest in college. Fathers are critical for the disipline & guidance needed to succeed in school & reach for goals that require college.

Go look up the statistics on soviet & US auto production.

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According to your view of social justice, slavery is a form of social justice. For centuries, Africans were kidnapped from their homes, brought to the United States, treated as property, created tremendous economic value for the kidnappers, and were lucky if they weren’t killed in the process. Is that what you would call equality of opportunity? The slaves put more equity into the lives of the slave owners than the slave owners could’ve done themselves, yet were not compensated for the economic value they created.

In any case, the idea of everyone being given the same salary is a completely bogus argument that’s only advanced in a desperate effort to ensure that a handful of people benefit from their humanity to the rest of us. No one, and I mean no one, including me, is arguing for that. My point is and was that the most successful society are the ones that find ways to meet the needs of individuals and the needs of society as a whole. Prove me wrong. With facts. Something with which I’m not entirely sure you’re familiar. But I guess there’s always help.

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Paulah May's avatar

Sounds like fun!

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RChmpK's avatar

You have lost your mind. How does equal opportunity justify slavery. Slavery is not equal opportunity.

Also, social justice is not the meeting of individual needs & the needs of society.

Social justice, as practiced here in the US, is the punishing of one group to make another group have more.

Sweden taxes everyone a lot & provides a lot of social benefits. We could do that here & the Democrats push for that. However, Democrats don’t advocate for high taxes & lots of social perks because of equality or even equity… they are buying votes with taxpayer dollars. They have been promising “free” college & “free” healthcare, to be paid for “by the rich.” “Vote of us & get all this free stuff.” Well, it doesn’t work that way. EVERYONE would have to pay 60-70% of their income in taxes to pay for crappier college (because if everyone could go for “free” there would be 300 students per teacher) and crappier healthcare (because it would be rationed, as it is in Canada, Sweden, UK, & every other country with single-payer). When you poll Canadians or Swedes whether they like their healthcare the polls say “90% love it.” Yes, the 80% of healthy Canadians & the ones lucky enough to get a pediatrician for their kids love it. The 20% with medical problems (& have to wait months for an MRI or years for a knee replacement) *hate* it. The average of the poll looks great. When your child is born in Canada, you enter their name in a lottery & most get a pediatrician… many don’t get one for months & some longer than that.

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My family is Canadian. I don’t need polls. I know they have accessible and state of the art, free health care services at their disposal. So let’s set that aside and discuss how a comment about communism morphed into you feeling somehow slighted by the idea of social justice? The two are not even almost equivalent.

Also, it’s sort of the goal of evolved human civilization to end hunger and suffering, generally speaking, and most decent human beings who have enough to eat and some in reserve would likely hand a starving kid a sandwich of their own volition.

But that’s somehow become the .. what did you say? The “justification for slavery? “ “The punishing of one group to make another group have more”?

Maybe I’m confused. That’s not what social justice OR communism OR socialism does. It is, however, EXACTLY what capitalism produces. Next time you see a homeless veteran, or a single mom working her third shift at McDonalds think about how much more than them someone like Donald Trump or Elon Musk HAS, how they got it, who did the actual work involved ( and whether they even got paid at all for it), and what they seem perfectly willing to do to keep it and get more of it RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

I may have misunderstood your point. I really hope I did. Because it’s absolutely insane to me that anyone would think Social Justice has anything to do with enslaving anyone. It’s batshit crazy to me to think that a wealthy American who has everything they need would be opposed to contributing to an economy and culture that helps ensure that people in their communities, their kids schools, their neighborhoods, stores, malls, gas stations, churches - the places they eat live work and play- are healthy and educated. No successful individual in the United States should WANT TO KEEP the mere pennies on each dollar beyond their actual needs and dreams and luxuries- when so little a percentage in taxation could be used to make sure the people in their neighborhood don’t have to sleep in filth on the streets because they couldn’t get an education or a job, are denied the PRIVILEGE of medical assistance, and are left to shit in bushes in our backyards.

And your argument does not convince me that opposing Social Justice because you, too, are struggling is not a logical, defensible viewpoint so much as an emotional reaction. To be among the wealthy elite and be able to improve the lives of people in your very midst yet choose to do otherwise because helping is somehow offensive to their political narrative is sick fucking thinking.

And still has zero connection the original post about communism.

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Al K's avatar

Healthly Canadians love their healthcare system, sick Canadians hate it. You are lucky that your family is healthy. Canadian healthcare is not free (you pay more taxes), accessible (avg wait time for an MRI is 21 weeks… I can get an MRI tomorrow and Canada has lotteries & waitlists for pediatricians), and state-of-the-art procedures & equipment is so rare that waiting lists are many months long. Canadian MPs travel to the US & pay out of pocket for surgeries, because they know they will be dead before they get “free” ones in Canada.

Social Justice is nothing more than wealth redistribution. Yes, if we see a starving child, of course we would give them half our sandwich, but this is not the same as taxing people to redistribute wealth. Actually, Republicans are far more likely to donate time & money to charities than Democrats.

Social Justice & communism both forcefully take from producers, from the successful, & give to the unsuccessful. It’s forced charity. There’s a difference between a “safety net” that helps people in need temporarily, and career welfare recipients. Maybe you don’t have a third of your citizens getting some kind of welfare handout from the gov’t like we do in the US. Yes, 100 million Americans get some form of gov’t assistance.

People that sleep in the streets are almost all mentally ill & do not want help. There are 80 federal welfare programs handing out $1 trillion annually to the poor in the US. States have hundreds more welfare programs. Nobody in the US has to sleep in the streets. The poor in the US have smartphones, big TVs, & a higher standard of living than 90% of the world. The poorest 10% of Americans live better than the top 10% (on avg) in russia, Portugal, or Mexico.

The BBB included a provision that requires single, childless, able-bodied welfare recipients to work or look for work (a policy originally signed by Democrat President Clinton, repealed by Democrat President Obama), but Democrats scream that it’s racist & benefits are being stolen from the poor to give tax breaks for the rich.

What we need and have is equal opportunity. Mandated (forced) equal results (communism & Social Justice) punish the hardworking & encourage the lazy to remain lazy.

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Chris. Moquin's avatar

Elon Musk, is he an unadulterated kleptocratic oligarch. Many people believe, just as I do, he is.

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Melanie's avatar

Yet he has spent much of his wealth working to bring good to humanity. You cannot say that about other extremely wealthy individuals. Plus he has paid more in taxes than any other US citizen

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

What good did he bring? And, sorry what taxes did he pay because last time I checked his two largest businesses are literally built and still function primarily off of government subsidies. Your taxes are literally going to support his vanity projects.

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Elon Musk personally paid $11 billion in taxes in 2021. He donated 500+ Starlink sets to North Carolina hurricane victims & 20,000 sets to Ukraine. The Ukraine sets cost him $80 million. Musk isn’t getting *subsidies* from the US gov’t - his compaines sell goods & services to the gov’t (and at a fraction of the cost of other suppliers). He has saved NASA over $40 billion by providing equipment & services to them at a fraction of the cost of NASA doing these things themselves or buying from other suppliers. I’m certain you’re going to point to Tesla paying $0 in federal taxes, despite billions in profit. People who whine about this don’t know how businesses work: Tesla was founded in 2003, but did not make a profit until 2020. All those years of losses come with tax benefits. People would not take the risks of investing in businesses if they got no credit for all the years of net losses. Tesla will soon be paying taxes as they use up those losses from their early years.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Ok so contracts are absolutely a form of subsidy. SpaceX is pretty much entirely funded by contracts. Starlink is directly funded through certain agencies like the FCC off the top of my head. Tesla get the most in the form of contracts, tax breaks, and tax credits. Those credits are literally what made his company possible in the first place; other car manufacturers paid Tesla for regulatory credits since they're all electric and their customers get upwards of 15-20% off the top of the vehicle price because of the tax rebate. For this reason, there's pretty much no way you can say that his businesses are NET paying taxes.

The risk for Musk investing is going from a billionaire to a multi-millionaire, to me, someone who works for a living, that's not a risk. For me, the hard part is not understanding how the businesses work that part is very easy, it's showing people that 'innovators' like Musk are not the backbone of the company, it's the workers and the engineers who made it happen.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Exactly 💯. Well said.

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Is it fair to lump Musk into the same category as Zuckerberg, when it is his #OpenSource Tesla ventures that are propelling us closest to mankind’s opportunity for what Tony Seba calls #StellarENERGY?

#SustainableENERGY

#SustainableENERGYfuture

#SustainableENERGYsolutions - leading to #SustainableAbundance.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Ill believe IT when I see it. Our infrastructure is a great disaster area. 😂 My God.. what are they DOING???????

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Freaking disaster area,******

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Is it fair to lump Musk into the same category as Zuckerberg, when it is his #OpenSource Tesla ventures that are propelling us closest to mankind’s opportunity for what Tony Seba calls #StellarENERGY?

#SustainableENERGY

#SustainableENERGYfuture

#SustainableENERGYsolutions - leading to #SustainableAbundance.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Elon isn't that intelligent or interesting TBH. He's a PROLIFIC narcissistic gaslighter blowhard DBL down TRAITOR TRAIN WHO thinks he's IT. Well he's not IT. He's just disgusting and UnAmerican Underbelly Swamp. Selfish. Conflicted. Rude. Has zero compassion..so I could careless wtf he's doing with cars, rockets and anything else... satellite 🛰️📡🛰️. IDC. He's a loser to me. 👁️

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So??? Does that make up for his insidious poisonous agendas on the US Government Departments & some webpages??!! You're gaslighting for him. It's ridiculous.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

That's so easy. I'd cut the Pentagon budget to $0. There's your waste fraud and abuse.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

Hegseth is a complete SHAM CULT INCOMPETENT LURCH

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"Meta revising its platform to please the elected Trump administration."

Don't you mean they changed it to allow free speech?

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Free speech?? 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Free fakes!!! 🆓 SCAMMERS out the arse.

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Katharine Pope's avatar

This is so far off’! How did this man get to speak on this topic? Way off way wrong and completely delusional. Someone needs to wake this poor man up! He needs a good teaching!

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Melanie's avatar

His views are very dangerous and typical of the left. Globalists. They want to destroy our country, our way of life, our freedoms. I have never felt the need to amass extreme wealth". I don't mind people who have worked hard for their money to become extremely wealthy. If they choose to hoard it that's on them and their conscience. I am a big supporter of those that use their wealth to better society like Elon Musk. On the other hand people like Soros that stays in the shadows causing chaos in this and other countries that is absolutely unacceptable and should be banned from anything that affects our country.

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Katharine Pope's avatar

Indeed! And also, Soros is using

Tax payers money to destroy the USA! It’s not even HIS money!

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Yup, and Musk is doing the same thing, look at all the subsidies his companies get.

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12 Billionaires work in Trump's Administration. 👁️ Oligarchy CEOs Elitist Weirdos.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

There are no good billionaires, don't be naive.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

There's a few

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To many Conspiracy THEORIES on Soros period!!! I think you dram to much Cult Kool Aid. ExGOP here...I CANNOT VOTE for a freaking Hypocrite selling bibles for cash blasphemous LOSER Rapist 34z FELON CREEPER TRAITOR 👁️ PUTIN Lover, ELON Pet Project VILLIAN who just fucked up our government to smithereens!!!!!! I'm 60 Circa 65 & THIS Administration OS NOT REPUBLICAN!!!! ITS NAZI STYLE AUTOCRATIC OLIGARCHY HYPOCRISY FULL TILT BS CRACKER HEADS.

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TRUTHMemes by ANCILEE's avatar

What you said makes no sense. Zero. Drink more dumb dumb juice.

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Keep ignoring the FACTS. You're the ones who are going DOWN 👇👎 as a party. The GOP is not the Republican Party ANYMORE. It's brainwashed, FEARFUL IDIOCRACY MAGA NUTS CULT INCOMPETENT LURCHES Project Nightmares MANDATES ELON Pet Project VILLIAN DOGE Douches Party from Hell. Good luck w/ all that 🗑️ garbage. UNAMERICAN TRAITORVILLE DSA Criminal Psychopath leader who's letting Thugs out of prison ..Silk Roads milker drug dealer!!!! Let him out. January 6 thugs hitting Americas police in the heads & spraying them with bear spray. Are you INTERESTED in FACTS or Bullshit??!! You're full.of IT. 💩

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Scott Galloway is not the person that you go to for this nonsense. He’s been proven wrong so many times in economics. It’s unreal. If he was really up for debate, he would’ve not tucked his tail and ran off of X because he could not take the criticism. Much like people on the left he wants an audience that’s only filled with people that agree with them. And you wonder why the Democrat party is seen in such unfavorable polling. The pessimism and not taking any responsibility has given the Democrats a 21% approval among the electorate.

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David Urano's avatar

I find it sad that the Right accuses the Left of the very thing the Right does. The Right needs to get out of the Fox/Newsmax/Joe Rogan bubble and listen to both sides and think critically. Before your Right brain explodes all over your keyboards I do read and watch media from both sides of the aisle and it’s obvious that the conservative media are mouthpieces for the Trump regime.

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Melanie's avatar

I watch from both sides of the isle and even more so, new media. I find the main stream media, msnbc, cnn, nbc, bbc, , etc. Yes even Fox speaks lies at times. As far as Fox being the mouth piece for President Trump. It is good that one news station is fair and balanced towards his administration. All the other are openly vehemently in opposition of EVERYTHING. They genuinely hate him so much they push lies and when called out they never acknowledge it. They just move the goal posts over again and again not realizing most Americans see exactly what they are doing. The rest of Americans are like sheep easily lead by the msn.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Fox News is an entertainment network, they don't do news. I'm not going to convince you but I just want you to know that it is capital P Propaganda when they're excusing disappearing innocent green card holders. You enjoy the spectacle of what they're saying that's why you watch. It's pop politics not factual reporting and analysis. They know you'd rather watch The Five rant about whatever nonsense to rile you up more than factual news coverage. You don't live in a movie. I hope one day you're able to deprogram.

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

LOL- liar

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

I rather be Trumps mouthpiece than be Kamala Harris' mouthpiece. Trump may not be doing everything according to my personal advocacies, but he is trying to make some significant and positive changes... I fled from the Democratic party; they have gone way too Marxist (authoritarian) for me. I don't support the woke culture--none of it, and I don't support destroying our country or the dollar; that is, if it's not already too late to save it.

I also don't support the central bank digital currency-- aka CBDC--or being controlled and surveilled any more than we have been since Obama's administration. And I definitely do not support wars. All this would have increased on steroids if Kamala Harris would've won. She's an ambitious, lazy slut, and socio-political climber!

Of course, we still need time to see how things materialize under Trump! But I do proudly support him while consciously being aware of the fact that he could, potentially, fail or let us down in the end. Yes, these are high stakes but worthwhile to me. It's a nasty and cruel world he's operating in -- just like real estate, the industry where Trump built his name before embarking on a career in the political industry.

I also support Vance, RFK Jr, and Tulsi Gabbard, especially the latter two. Some good health policies, right now, are being advocated and pushed by Kennedy. That said, it will be rough. He's dealing with powerful and dangerous agencies- such as, the FDA, CDC, Big Pharma, WHO, and global elitists (e.g. WEF) who are funding these agencies and want to create a one-world- order while promoting transhumanism. You can also add to this list, the corrupt war-mongering politicians who want to keep receiving the profits and other gains that wars and corruption bring them--clearly, there's an overlap here.

All said, you must keep in mind these are neither blue nor red attributes---they're coming from both political parties. But remember, Trump is not a traditional politician. He's seen as an outsider, and that's why he's such a threat to the deep state and the corrupt establishment.

BTW: I'm not into crony or oligarch capitalism and not into monopolies... I believe in regulations. Man doesn't have to be greedy... but many with power either are or become so.... Our capitalism system has gone unchecked and been corrupt for too long, and that's the problem. It's not capitalism in itself that is the problem--it's how it is practiced by those in power. What we have been experiencing for decades is unchecked greed.

Also, wasn't Stalin also known for murdering his own citizens? However, the US gov doesn't have any problem killing or targeting its own people either, as we've witnessed in the last 6 years, and still witnessing. The internet has allowed us to see all this and that is why now it is being clamped down and censored ship has been on the rise.

goodness!! That's why he's such a threat to the deep state and the establishment.

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

LOL-- look in the mirror.

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Pat's avatar

Partially, but not completely accurate! No surprise here. This is what happens when the Left has an opinion that they want everyone to believe. They attack themselves and then the Right, implying that they act EQUALLY to harm this nation. Elon began supporting the Right SLOWLY because he saw so many NEGATIVE things happening on the LEFT. It took quite a bit of time for it to happen. Zuck took no time at all to switch sides, self-serving AFTER Trump's win! lol They did not act the same.... Elon could have gotten just as much or More government MONEY from the Left. He knew it yet he went with the Right because it was the RIGHT thing to do. They are not the same. Have you seen Zuck losing any money being attacked by the Left? Nope, me either. lol

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

We are on the same page.

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Thomas Goodfellow's avatar

One fundamental truth is that wealth serves wealth and wealth uses those no so wealth like pawns. The people must rise up and fight the lies, fight the propaganda, and follow a democratic socialist progressive reform agenda. A capitalist economic system can stay but laws must be changed to quash reactionary movements by amoral leviathans, fairly allocate and share community assets. Elections must always be fair and objective. Leaders must put the people first not stuffing their own larder.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

I'd argue that democratic socialist reform is the least we should strive for. The profit structure of capitalism needlessly creates hierarchy and thus the immoral system that we live under. Reactionary belief naturally comes out of this survival-of-the-fittest mode of production. We don't need hierarchy to rule over us, we can work toward a better society where we share power equally.

Thank you for reading!

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Gingerfire777's avatar

We the People have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Not given to us by men but the free will and enterprise given to us by God. This whole thing seems to be about men fighting to control men. Limits, forced servitude, equity disguised as the word equality. It's all a lie and forced illusion to the sheep to pick a side that are both missing the mark. Imho

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Charlie B's avatar

These people complaining here appear to have no clue of what right and wrong is. Nor any idea what American democracy as is spelled out in our constitution is or how it works. Talking heads. No real experience.

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T Grochowski's avatar

We are a constitutional republic! Not a democracy. Go back to school of yesterday that taught real history!

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

If you went to school you'd know that republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive terms

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

Good point but don't know if that is taught in schools. All I know is that we need both.

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Kris Gannon's avatar

So say you. The misinformed one of the group.

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Katherine Augustson's avatar

Very informative piece and ALL TRUE! Thank you!

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Kathy Janacek's avatar

They refuse to look in the mirror. Look at biden baldy who opened our doors to the world on OUR dime. This plus a gazillion other things. Leaving BILLIONS dollars in milatary equipment in enemy territory?? PLUS AMERICANs??? Get the F out of here with this BS

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Chantal's avatar

Here’s the crux of the issue:

”While his sentiment is correct, it’s essential to add that this is not just a problem with the tax system, although in an isolated sense it is broken, it’s a problem with capitalism as a whole, where buying the government is an inherent incentive of the wealthy to gain more wealth. “

Capitalism by definition is the voluntary exchange of goods and services for an agreed upon price between two parties. Introducing government influence for incentive is no different essentially than armed robbery. This not not Capitalism but Cronyism.

In a truly Capitalist society it would not be possible for anyone to become this obscenely rich because there will always be competition.

It’s easy to point to greed as a reason to socialize the means of production - as if socialism somehow cures human nature from this ugly temptation. On the contrary, Socialism institutionalizes greed, and it’s not much different from cronyism since it still robs people from the fruits of their labor at gunpoint.

I find it sad that even in America this distinction still eludes general understanding.

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Geo's avatar

Who are the Russian Oligarchs? They are the Communist commissars of yesterday. Big government is the problem not the solution. Big government leads to monopolies and oligarchy.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

No, capitalism left to its own devices will naturally monopolize and form an oligarchy. That's exactly what happened when the government has stopped doing anti-trust enforcement over the last 30+ years. Capitalism is inherently about infinite consumption in a finite world; it's unsustainable. When it begins to collapse it leads to what is happening now– coagulation of government and corporations.

The government isn't "big" or "small" there's no such thing. It either works for the people or it doesn't.

The Russian oligarchs today are not communists by any fathomable stretch. They're capitalists who began to strip the USSR government of power beginning in the 80s, privatizing and liberalizing the nation until Gorbachev ended everything.

When you don't control capitalism and put it on a leash like China does, it consumes your country and its people and enslaves them.

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Thomas Goodfellow's avatar

Effective systems need purpose, goals, measures of input and output and controls, feedback, assessment and improvement. The people here never signed up for an authoritarian system run by criminals and their accolites to take more wealth and property from the working people than they return in value. That's the sham, and yes it is ugly. We work to improve the system for all or we digress to a brutal existence.

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

I'd like to hear more about your last statement.

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Chantal's avatar

China! 😂

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Kris Gannon's avatar

What the hecak? Calling the president a rapist is so wrong. It makes everything else you say untrustworthy. Your words shall ever remain blowing in the wind.

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Donald Trump was found civilly liable for the rape of E Jean Carroll in 2023, that is a fact.

Donald Trump was in the Epstein files along with many pictures of the two together. He was quoted in 2002 regarding Epstein, “I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for 15 years. Terrific guy,” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

Oh, come on... that's not why you don't like Trump. It just sounds good to those who have TDS. Biden is a PERVERT and has allowed the child SEX trafficking industry to increase on steroids. So, you don't like Trump-- your prerogative. But provide some intelligent reasons as to why your critical thinking doesn't work for you anymore.

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Thomas Goodfellow's avatar

Trump lacks respect for others and just about every word out of his mouth is a lie. We need better leaders to protect our rights under our constitution and bill of rights.

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

Well to me he is much better than Kamala. It's true that he is not living up to all he said he would but still better than the alternative: woke Marxist Kamala.

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K. Smith's avatar

23 women have accused Trump. One conviction. Christians who support him are hypocrites. He paid off a porn star to keep quiet that he slept with her WHILE married. He has slept with the wives of his friends for entertainment. He has committed so many sins in one lifetime it’s unbelievable. See Trumpfile.org

It’s about being American before party— if you believe in justice and truth, do the reading on all sides.

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Magdalena Algarin's avatar

This sounds a bit exaggerated to me but just a bit.

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Thomas Goodfellow's avatar

In a better world the courts would have insisted all of the outstanding legal matters were allowed to run their course before his name was ever put on a ballot.

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Lono#30's avatar

Curious, where were you during the Biden money grab???

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Vincent Pagliaccio's avatar

Depends, is this a nuanced left critique or a dum dum Fox News conspiracy theory?

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Thomas Goodfellow's avatar

If one defines "money grab" as theivery of public assets for personal benefit with inadequate or no value exchanged (time or substance) in official capacity I would have to disagree with your determination. It seems to me Trump is way ahead of Biden in corrupt misuse of public office for personal consumption beyond his legitimate compensation. He has already been tried and found guilty of fraud in legitimate courts of law and other pending cases were delayed making a mockery of timely justice for the people. Have you ever listened to him speak? He is a poor actor who constantly presents outright lies and propaganda. No one in his party has the moral fiber to challenge this bad behavior, which is their duty. The American public is being victimized by his behavior and the lack of intercession by his party.

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